Case Dismissed with Prejudice in 2008

It has been so many years since this, and so much speculation, but now a retired witness to the whole thing has stepped forward. Yes, that thing. The reason Bullshido even covered the machinations of College of Learning and all their affiliates from 2005 to 2015. The case. That one. 

"I stumbled across your site and assumed you were in the know. I also read some very curious comments from one of my NDA people, so naturally I had to investigate." They said. 

"But don't worry. I am long since retired from all this. I was one of the prosecution on the case of (LWS) and (COL) versus (AG)."

"The statute of limitations of the NDAs expired in 2017, so that was very clever of the poster. So, what do you want to know?" 

We replied. Was (AG) ever posting on Bullshido.org?

"He was not posting there."

Was the case or cases against him false or defamatory?

"With prejudice means there was more than that." 

Was he posting on other aggregate sites? 

"He was posting on a site which was court ordered to be removed. CultMember.com. "

Was he mean to his ex wife, or the accused?

"The allegations against him were dropped. In a court of law, they were proven false." 

How many COL people stood as witnesses to this?

"The CEO and most of her staff were allegedly witnesses. They could not have all been in the same room with the accused. It is not possible. He operated out of state."

We will not say where this was, as it's already known where the other company was. 

So my next question is, was there a settlement in 2008?

"No. Not in this case. The accusers clearly were attempting to destroy the defendant. It was dropped with prejudice. The lawyers for the company refused then to show up, and repealed in anotherr higher court, which also was dropped."

A counter suit indicated a patent issue that had nothing to do with this. It was just the ceo trying to milk money from AG, right?

"I was not part of that case. I do not know."

Was all of this about money?

"It usually is about money. They didn't get anything. He didn't either."

So this actually jells with what (KB) said years ago. 

"Going to assume he has gone on with his life, and stayed out of the spotlight."

Did acting members of the COL and the LWS actually use company time to berate and harass ex students?

"Yes. It's in the cases."

How did you know of this?

"I was involved. I regret it. I advised them not to do that, as it was legally sketchy. If even one of them turned and sued for defamation, they would be in for trouble legally."

The statute of limitations have expired on the whole thing, so in the end, everyone loses.

Maybe some of the ex students were actually trying to educate the masses more than riff on them. Seems they were trying to help for the wrong reasons. But in your opinion, was it justified?

"The former employees and students have every right within free speech to post so long as it is not defamatory. I see nothing defamatory about this site, for instance. It is an archive of those events."

Ha, the only thing I ever got was a divorce summons from them. 

"That's against the law. I take it the limitations have expired on that?"

They have. It was a while ago. I wasn't even married. Ha. 

"Well, then you had nothing to worry about."

Was Bullshido responsible for their bloggers?

"No. According to the terms of service, they were not responsible for anyone posting. That is why unlike the other site, they could not be removed."

And CultSlayerUs? It too was taken down. The first was. 

"You closed that account, not a court order." 

You are good. 

"But it is a good thing OKD disappeared. That was questionable."

Yeah, that was. But to clarify, AG got nothing. TYK got nothing, KK got nothing?

"They got nothing."

Is it even libel?

"No. It was not hate speech. It was free speech. Testimonies of former students, like whistle blowers are protected."  

So we don't use real names. I think I started this just shy of 21. Ha. 

"You and yours are very clever, and decent sleuths. Too bad you never went into the business."

Ha, no. 

End transmission.

Searching for The Cult Turns up Us

Welcome to 2022! These are some tidbits from the COL cult news. Note there isn't much. Our archives keep coming up. 

They have shut down the school due to the pandemic, but not the computer company, operating in reduced hours. 

A recent tell all story called On Location apparently isn't really what we thought. It's just a long journal taking place over 30 years, featuring several volumes, some of which do touch upon an exer student's 18 or so years of training at the school. It's actually quite positive. He does eventually go into the revelations of the 2010s, but not to an extent enough to call it a tell all. 

The student can also confirm that "Lighthouse Girl" was a real person who passed on the story of her leaving the company because creepy cult people tried to control her love life. She is now happily married to another ex student. 

The wiki for the guru still includes the controversy section, but gets away with it by using allegedly and from sources other than just Bullshido. They have not removed it. 

The origin CultSlayerUs was indeed run by an exer female friends, but we never dated. It is now gone. Even so, assuming we were, COL attempted to sent a divorce summons to me, and to her, in addition to other former students, around the year 2014. 

Operation Komodo Dragon was not the same thing as Frog and Scorpion. One was a clear ever hatchet job, and the other an actual PR thing than failed. Both failed. 

The fabled Adam G never posted on Bullshido. The settled trial though was a story broken by us. We contacted those involved and they said it was settled for an undisclosed sum. 

Several exers used the great mall and the movies and premieres as excuses to hang out and compare notes around 2015 to 2017, after reading some of the Jules and Mikey site, and recognizing the exers there as old friends. 

Although the exer known as Clare did do Bullshido and his execellent Cult Mmeber blog, he was of no relations to us. We did give him tips though, like to check out that weird Mike Hunt site and its online counterpart, Hella Kitty Kai, of which both can be found. 

Clare, as we will call him was asked to participate in a TV expose, which turned into something else, in 2018, and he refused. In 2019, Netflix picked up a show called The 100 with a lot of COL themes in it, done by other exers and others. 

Due to pressure from Major League Baseball itself, a false story about one of their players training with the guru and gaining some weird advantages, in the 1990s, was removed from wiki pages in 2016, thanks exclusively to Jules and Mikey who knew someone on the Giants then and reported the story to their management. 

The four kitty ki in fact included an actual high level instructor within the cult who had turned turncoat by 2014 and gave the then Blackie and Katherine sites all the dirt they wanted. Most of it was never printed. He has since left. 

Although the Mikey disc file was fake, as discovered in 2017 to be fake, there was indeed something like it. COL freaked out and thought it a hacking. It was not that. They just had a mole at Lighthouse giving them info. She has since left. Also Mikey never dated her, despite receiving a bizarre  summons in 2018 about it. It freaked him out so he never posted again anywhere. Jules however was not stopped, and still appears. 

Jules' lawyer friend told Mikey to ignore it, as they had no legal leg to stand on. Blogging about your old school is not defamation. Making up false claims could be, if it actually damaged anything, and it doesn't. Not anymore. Too much time has passed.

It is estimated currently that out of the 5,420 former students of the cult and school, only about 200 were in the cult, and all but a dozen have left, and that of the angry exers, there are at most 870. The rest do not care and have moved on. Bullshido started with 34 exers, and grew to nearly that 800 or so in the end.

We have moved on too, but it is nice to see the slaying of the cult paid off. Obviously, we cannot take credit for anything current. We have not been in the cult really since the 2007 period. Most of Jules is from the older exer lady. She wasn't there. 

Editorial by JA

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