Tuesday, June 11, 2019

College of Learning Bullshido Declassified Archive Part 5 2012 to 2016 selections

    1/10/2012
    carson
        Hi all! I've not been reading or posting for quite a while, thought I would check in and see how folks are doing! I read back a few pages - Some things just never change! And to Bemused- TYK lied to both my ex and the guy I was supposed to be in a relationship with on several occasions. She also lied to COL members in general about me and others on a regular basis - it is one of the ways she keeps control. When I would ask a senior (EAS) or one of the instructors, I was always told that TYK has a reason for everything she does, and I needed to just accept what was said and see what I could learn from it. I was also told that TYK can see what is in our hearts, even if we don't see it ourselves - in other words, what she claimed I said or did was in my heart, and I was guilty without knowing it. What a sad and scary way of controlling people who trust her with all their hearts!

        But life is truly wonderful now. As Bemused says, living a great life is the best revenge! I really do have to thank TYK, though - if it weren't for all the things I went through I would not be the caring, compasionate and generous person that I am now, truly enjoying every breath.

    1/10/2012
    Kathy Kim
        Everything she says is a lie. Or most of it. She only thinks of herself. I'm not bitter, that is just how I see it. In the long run she will pay the price. Those that have left are lucky to have their lives. Someone is always leaving, I like to think these posts have at least brought people to questioning and then seeing, maybe she "doesn't" really know anything. She is only for herself.

    1/11/2012
    bemused
        Hi Carson, and welcome back. It's been quiet around here.

        TYK tells so many lies that I wonder how she keeps them all straight in her mind. It's clear how she keeps people from checking with each other though--journals and fear. Of course, we were supposed to tell her the truth, unless a) she wanted us to lie, or b) she decided she knew better than we did what we were thinking. I believe that the latter is referred to as mind rape.

        What's truly tragic, though, is that lies are TYK's only source of self-esteem. What else does she have, now that her looks have faded? Okay, she's a third-degree black belt, but if that were enough for her she wouldn't have to falsely claim a higher rank. I have a new title for her, the High Priestess of Hype!

    1/11/2012
    Freewill
        TYK slowly and methodically stole our freedom and freewill. When I trained at Jung SuWon and was sucked into COL we lived in housing that was owned by TYK and the instructors. The houses were split up with males in one house and females in another. There were 15 or more people in each household and we were told by TYK who we were to room with. We weren’t allowed to drive anywhere by ourselves and we worked for Lighthouse or another one of TYK’s companies. At times we weren’t paid a salary and if we were paid a salary, the money was funneled back for COL dues or other programs. We had a shopping list of what we could eat and most of it wasn’t what would be considered a healthy diet. We were told what to wear and we didn’t buy clothes on our own. We were on call 24 hours a day 7 days a week and were always sleep deprived. We lived with the feeling that we were always working towards something greater than ourselves but nothing ever came out of all the selfless hours that we put towards events or special guests. We were never good enough and we were never appreciated. We gave up our family and friends and shut ourselves off from TV, radio and anything that wasn’t focused on TYK. We chanted TYK’s name in meditations and sat on the floor while she sat in a chair and reprogrammed our minds. We were disciplined, punished, abused and no matter what the signs were, it was difficult to get out. We thought in our minds that we were going to build a City of Light (COL) somewhere and TYK’s teachings were going to remold the world. We were not weak or stupid but were each at a vulnerable point in our lives and victims of a grandmaster manipulator.

        Keep TYK honest by continually sharing your experiences on this site and other web sites. TYK will ultimately be known for being a failed cult leader that stole the lives of so many people.

        I am thankful to have my life again and my hope is that everyone that was under TYK’s control appreciates their freedom. It is not easy starting over but there is nothing more valuable than health, family, friends and freewill.

    1/11/2012
    bemused
        Welcome, Freewill. It's good to hear from another former COL member who made it out. Post-cult life is indeed good. I would add one more item to your list: self-expression!

    1/11/2012
    Failed Student
        Thank you Freewill for sharing your experience.
        I cannot help but find a parallel between this situation and so many other cults, where every aspect of one's life is monitored and controlled.
        It is not too different from what is going on now in North Korea, with Crazy Kim #3, where compliance is instilled by the fear that eyes are watching you everywhere and at all times.

    1/11/2012
    Kathy Kim
        Freewill, glad to hear from you. I left there the last of 91. October actually, so I probably don't know you. There were 4 COL houses when I left. One belonged to es. which men stayed at. I'm glad to see you made it out ok. Each day is a new day.. Be grateful for it and if there are still people there that you care about, share what you know on here. Also what you share will maybe make people think before they join. Everyone seems to google things they are interested in, so they see this link, let all know the truth. Lots of us you may not know, but our words are all truthful, no matter how painfull they were to write or share. I'm the only one that has put my name up here, but we all know each other.
        I curious, have you read all the posts? Hope to hear more from you

    1/13/2012
    bemused
        Hi Freewill, If you don't mind, I'm curious, what made you decide to leave COL? It's okay if you'd rather not say.

    1/14/2012
    clarehoare
        Nice, a new contributor! Thanks for sharing!

    1/23/2012
    Failed Student

        I have never had access to the BB vs TYK etc lawsuit prior to yesterday. I have read the plaintiffs testament and I am both amazed and angered that TYK and her cronies were able to extort an inheritance out of a young and innocent woman.

        Apparently TYK had some interesting legal and financial assistance in this con. I would be curious to know whether those named defendants are still practicing in their respective professions.

        To say that one's inheritance is evil and the person must be cleansed of it by getting rid of it is similar to the gypsy fortune teller that tells a troubled individual to bring cash in a brown envelope and that it will be purified by the fortune teller - who of course has some under the table assistance in making the envelope switch.

        This con bears similarities to what they tried to do to me - SHS telling me to "get rid of my nest egg" and follow "grand master"...Of course, "grandmaster" wanted to be the recipient of my disgorgement of monies.

    1/23/2012
    Kathy Kim
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Failed Student View Post
        I have never had access to the BB vs TYK etc lawsuit prior to yesterday. I have read the plaintiffs testament and I am both amazed and angered that TYK and her cronies were able to extort an inheritance out of a young and innocent woman.

        Apparently TYK had some interesting legal and financial assistance in this con. I would be curious to know whether those named defendants are still practicing in their respective professions.

        To say that one's inheritance is evil and the person must be cleansed of it by getting rid of it is similar to the gypsy fortune teller that tells a troubled individual to bring cash in a brown envelope and that it will be purified by the fortune teller - who of course has some under the table assistance in making the envelope switch.

        This con bears similarities to what they tried to do to me - SHS telling me to "get rid of my nest egg" and follow "grand master"...Of course, "grandmaster" wanted to be the recipient of my disgorgement of monies.
        You were smart and most likely a little less gullible than BB. Not being there I don't know. But tyk is a very sharp con artist. And they do have everyone work on everyone

    1/24/2012
    clarehoare
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Kathy Kim View Post
        You were smart and most likely a little less gullible than BB. Not being there I don't know. But tyk is a very sharp con artist. And they do have everyone work on everyone
        I don't think she was gullible, I think as most her age, she was a lil bit naive.. but we all were when we got involved.

    1/24/2012 11:52pm,
    Kathy Kim
        I read the court records. That is so terrible how they tricked her out of her money. I hope she was able to sue and get her money plus back

    1/25/2012 7:24am,
    Failed Student
        I believe from past reports BB was successful. Probably not 100 cents on the dollar, but fairly close.
        I notice the outside helpers TYK had are all still practicing in their fields. Perhaps they received a slap on the wrist for unprofessional conduct or conflict of interest.


    6/22/2012 10:46am,
    MGD
        Hello everyone!
        I would like to say to everyone who may think this thread is all about destroying the credibility of JSW and TYK ....IT IS NOT!!!

        I am a newbie to this site and thread and have only "skimmed" over the 4 parts of "ex JSW students" thread and can honestly say that "facts" are pretty accurate and I am not surprised!

    6/27/2012
    Failed Student
        Hey JSW webmaster...your student of the week is getting a bit stale - time to get someone new on there and maybe change those videos from the nineties

    6/29/2012
    MGD
        One reason JSW failed in VT .... the citizens of the state and the Burlington community are intelligent and can see through BS.....they will give anyone a chance but if you *&$% them they will destroy you....when the community realized what She was doing the money and students started to dry up and TYK, Scott and company started crying foul making accusations about other MA schools etc......12-18 mos later they were ALL gone ..to CA

        Oh yeah BTW....I used kick Scott S. ass ALL the time during free sparring and I was 4-5 belts his junior ....he's not the great of a martial artist......boy would he get pissed ..always take it out on me when he was "teaching" with hundreds of repetitive kicks etc..it was ALWAYS worth it because the class understood he was a "wanna be" without the talent!!!!

    6/30/2012
    Failed Student
        I don't know who you are MGD, but I rather doubt you were kicking Scott's ass. Yes, he was the classic schoolyard bully type, and he could be a mean bastard, but from what I observed while I was training there, (1981-1984) no one was besting him. The last thing I want to be doing is defending this son of a bitch, but he was slavishly devoted to his training and his master and did all her bidding without question and earned his belt rank.
        ATC never made any money and was supported by money extorted from students such as myself through intimidation, shunning, and ostracism. They may have trash talked the other schools because they were conventional martial arts schools, and ATC chose to set itself apart as something different, to the point of no longer participating in tournaments. I believe this was to prevent her students from interacting with students from other schools and perhaps getting a different perspective.
        I remember only one incident in training with Scott - we were doing hand techniques. I was holding my own quite well even thougn I was only a yellow belt at the time. He ramped up his punches to the point that he injured my arm so badly that I had a black and blue mark the length of my forearm for a month afterward. Crazy Tae reamed him out for that and he was made to apologize to me.

    7/03/2012
    MGD
        Failed Student,
        With all do respect I started training at the Kyong Ae Academy of TKD summer of '79 under both Kyon Ae Fontaine and her brother Dae Yong Kim. I witnessed the break up of the academy into two schools along with the students. I believe 6-10 students went with Master Fontaine and Scott was the senior most student (red belt). I can tell you that up until he left he was good but not that good and I was able to run circles around him because I was much faster, flexible/agile than him. As long as you could get inside(jam his kicks) he was unable to counter because his hand speed was pitiful. If his speed, technique and flexibility improved then it was only AFTER the new school was opened.

        I can also state with confidence that one of the two other students who left with M. Fontaine and Scott could and did run circles around him ...his technique, speed and flexibility was FAR better than Scott's. I do not remember his name however I believe he had blonde hair and dropped out of college his sophomore year to pursue the MA as a "career". His close friend had dark hair and I believe his name was Mike. Both of these student came from fairly successful families with the blonde hair students' dad being a Dr. (I think).

    7/03/2012
    Failed Student
        MGD - now that I have a better time frame, I am getting a fix on who you are.
        In all probability, at that point in time, you probably were a match for Scott. Once he broke away from Dae Yung, Kyong Ae trained him, the blonde guy and his friend, as well as one other quite hard. That intensive training started even before the break. About 6 of us would go early in the morning to a quarry and work out for well over an hour. The blond haired one did not drop out of college, but finished his four years at UVM. He moved out of his dorm and took up residence in an apartment in downtown Burlington, shared with Scott and Mike. That also became a Buddhist temple for Kyong Ae's mother. Long story....... Yes, one person's father was a MD and the other was a NY banker.

    7/04/2012
    MGD
        Failed Student (LOL), great name I laugh every time I read it! Thanks for the brief road trip down memory lane. Wow my memory is not that bad the parent was a banker you say ... I was going to say a financial adviser but was unsure. I do recall the Buddhist temple and Bop Sa Nim (?) I only went once to the apartment and it was too "culty" then for me.

        Prior to the temple moving out of Colchester and the formation of the two separate schools TYK and I had a very long conversation at her house in Winooski and it dawned on me then that "something" was not what it seemed. This was when I started to gravitate more toward M. Kim in my training...I guess I made the correct decision!

        At this time I would like to state that I have no animosity towards TYK or the others. If I met TYK on the street I would still treat her with respect (she was one of my original instructors). I think if I met Scott I would laugh in his face but thats me also I know it would piss him....never had much respect for the guy...

        You may be getting a better understanding of whom I am but I am trying to recall who you are.....I guess if you would like to know who I am we can do that by other means....Three questions for you...What rank were you prior to the split? A UVM student? Finally were you also a part time bartender at the "Saloon"?

        Happy Fourth of July

    7/04/2012
    Failed Student
        MGD - I will take a risk and send you a private message.

    7/04/2012
    Failed Student
        MGD - I cannot send you a private message, because the Bullshido gods won't allow it. Maybe you are restricting it, I don't know. But if you want to dialogue with me, please allow for private messages. You can block those you don't want to hear from.

    7/04/2012
    Failed Student
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by MGD View Post
        Failed Student (LOL), great name I laugh every time I read it! Thanks for the brief road trip down memory lane. Wow my memory is not that bad the parent was a banker you say ... I was going to say a financial adviser but was unsure. I do recall the Buddhist temple and Bop Sa Nim (?) I only went once to the apartment and it was too "culty" then for me.

        Prior to the temple moving out of Colchester and the formation of the two separate schools TYK and I had a very long conversation at her house in Winooski and it dawned on me then that "something" was not what it seemed. This was when I started to gravitate more toward M. Kim in my training...I guess I made the correct decision!

        At this time I would like to state that I have no animosity towards TYK or the others. If I met TYK on the street I would still treat her with respect (she was one of my original instructors). I think if I met Scott I would laugh in his face but thats me also I know it would piss him....never had much respect for the guy...

        You may be getting a better understanding of whom I am but I am trying to recall who you are.....I guess if you would like to know who I am we can do that by other means....Three questions for you...What rank were you prior to the split? A UVM student? Finally were you also a part time bartender at the "Saloon"?

        Happy Fourth of July
        To address what I can publicy -
        MBF's father was a biggie in Morgan Guaranty Trust Co or it's banking affiliate. TYK got a piece of the action when MBF received his inheritance after the requirement that he marry. Apparently he signed over the money to TYK after the "I do".

        As far as that temple in downtown Burlington ( Po Gyo Dan) it was rather weird as apartments go. Originally it was SHS and MBF that lived there, and a young Japanese woman not affiliated with martial arts. She moved out soon after TYK found out the woman had an attraction to MBF. Then there was some guy that had a room there, but the restrictions on his activities were so severe he moved out quickly ( restrictions included no alcohol and taking one's shoes of before coming in to the apartment).

        As far as respecting TYK today, you are greatly mistaken to show her any kind of deference---she has ruined lives, destroyed marriages, uprooted and separated people from their loved ones and any attachments....as someone once stated on this thread......"I wouldn't fart in her direction". Dae Jung is not much better - a really bad temper and a host of other issues I will discuss with you privately.

        I made it as far as green belt before the split...then was stuck at that rank for two years thanks to TYK's power trip. I was one of the older students and I was never a bartender at any establishment.....just a consumer of alcohol from the other side of the bar.

        A happy July 4 to you too - off to see the parade, enjoy the barbeque, and have fun.

    1/06/2013
    sarangbitter
        Hello All: My name is Kim. I come from Korea. Guess what. I can confirm only this once, Kyung Ae is a fraud. She trained with my master, well ex master, many years ago. He was not an old man. He was associated with her uncle. She had the rank of black belt when she went to America with her new husband. She brings shame to Korea. Now that I am old man, I don't give a flying turd. Want to clear my conscience. She is now Tae Yun. Saw her on TV here and thought, what a load of it. I cannot believe she has convinced anyone to follow her. Not bad for a girl from Kimchung. This is the same lady. Have read posts. Very sad she is running a cult but not surprising. We do that. Run cults. Convince naive Americans to buy into the who ki energy stuff. And that whole story about her upbringing is a lie. She never saw a friend blow up. She did not get it for being a girl. Her parents were just hard on her. Korean men are like that sometimes. She is very clever though. She was a very good student and took much of the art back to America and made it popular. Too bad she didn't stay that way. Still she is living a false way. Making a profit and taking money from students and making rich students live with her for their money is very savvy, but she is going to have only her past to live back on. A true master does not need a cult of followers to make oneself look good. They do not need fame or power. Something went wrong there. I am leaving now. I am clear in my conscience. Kim.

    6/03/2013
    Failed Student
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Failed Student View Post
        I believe you misread the page. That was a reference to another company.
        Mea culpa Bemused - apparently they did go bankrupt but have reorganized and are still in business. Perchance Kimmy et al bit off more than they could chew with the Solyndra purchase. Perchance also they could find no one, or not enough people, to rent space in their studio and help them pay back their loan. On another note, the more I look at those self promoting websites, the more I realize how amateurish they are, and how anyone in the technical corporate world can take them seriously is beyond me.

    6/10/2013
    Ryanbeld
    Chapter closed
        I haven’t posted in years as I had run out of things to say a long time ago. But now being so close to marriage and starting a family of my own, I look back and find the only regret I have is posting my past online for people to see and comment on; especially the unaffiliated.

        Family is of ever-increasing importance to me and I am lucky to have the family that I do. No matter what had transpired there it bugs me to know my mom and family’s name is out on these boards and other websites. This is something I now wish our family had dealt with out of the public eye.

        I grew up and spent many of my formative years there and have been at peace with all of that for a while now. I have friends with what people would consider normal upbringings and the more I talk to them the more I find that a lot of them had situations far more unstable and unhealthy than what I’ve experienced. There were many good and fun times to go along with the weird and untraditional ones.

        I know that my experiences alone are not the centerpiece of this thread and that other people who were there have valid issues and complaints of their own that they are dealing with. But for me, I’ve grown tired of being bitter. You can lose so much of the present when dwelling on the past. And I feel like an ass for having complained about my sheltered upbringing when there are so many people in this world facing legitimate problems. There are people dying of hunger, thirst, disease, civil war. What they would give to have my problems…
        I consider this chapter closed.

    6/10/2013
    Failed Student
        I wish this site had a "like" button. Thank you Ryanbeld for sharing.

    6/12/2013
    bemused
        Hey Ryanbeld, it's great to hear that you're doing well and moving on with your life. Best of luck to you in all you do.

        Everyone handles conflict differently. Some people are more vocal, others more private. Some people want to hold those who do wrong accountable, others want to escape further conflict. There are no perfect solutions.

        I don't post here much anymore. I monitor sporadically in case someone has news or a question.

    7/07/2013
    Charliebo
        Just had to vent to people who understand....
        I went to the movies at pacific commons in fremont, and saw that they have a booth set up right when you walk in..kids...teens...
        dropped my stomach...
        Told the manager they should do their research on who they let do this..That it was a cult. I don't know if anything will happen.
        has anyone seen their booths up anywhere else?

    8/04/2013
    bemused
        Charliebo, it's good that you let the theatre manager know the other side of the story. That is really all anyone can do. The theatre manager will have to make up his or her own mind. Kimmie and her minions have their First Amendment rights to freedom of expression, but at the same time, businesses have their First Amendment rights to freedom of association. Knowledge is power, and Kimmie thrives on outsiders' ignorance of her abusive actions.

    9/09/2013
    Failed Student
        Excellent points Bemused.
        One must also look at the type of person who becomes a victim....those with low self-esteem, those with little or no family structure or support system seem to be the most vulnerable, along with a few innocents who think they are part of a greater plan.

        In my own experience with this group, it started out innocently enough...a few favors were asked, and as acquiescence was gained, the requests became demands, then orders. As the leader saw she was gaining control over her followers, she became drunk with power. So yes, abuse tends to escalate.

        I think back and wonder whether this situation could have been short circuited while still in its infancy in VT. The power of persuasion, coupled with the student enforcers of the leader, and people fell obediently into line. Still, there were many that saw the cult for what it was, dropped out and went back to their lives, but those that stayed and are still there have been "turned". Their mental wiring has been changed, and they no doubt will live happily in this delusional environment until the end.
        I did recover and have no feelings about this cult experience anymore. My life is full - with work, with play, and with friends and family.

    5/23/2014
    bemused
        I haven't been on Bullshido in months. Thanks for the post, Clare. Interesting developments. Building an obstacle course isn't such a big deal, but any use of weapons is going to frighten the neighbors. Urban California is not rural Texas. What concerns me most, though, are the blogs of escapes. I'm reminded of Jdms's story. They might just be references to this thread and its predecessors, but maybe someone in the area witnessed an escapee heading for the freeway or something.

    11/07/2014 1:40pm,
    Shadow Dancer
        It has been a long time since I’ve posted here. On a lark, I recently re-read the entire saga from front to back, and look at where I am now in comparison to those years gone by.

        To those of you in COL who may consider leaving, be assured that there is a good life waiting for you. You will go through some serious separation anxiety and then there are the stages of grief that will face you. But, ultimately you will pass through them and regain your sense of self, self-worth, happiness, and the ability to live a life on your own terms.

        I’m not proud of the raw anger, snippiness, crassness and vicious meanness I spewed on this forum. It was over the top and childish. I’m sorry for that, but I do understand where it came from. It was like lancing an infected boil. It rose to the surface, erupted, drained, and then started to heal. Now it has healed and there is a scar to remember it by, but not be troubled with.

        For what it is worth, Kyung-Ae, I forgive you. Probably that means nothing to you, but I want you to know that.

        Angela, I forgave you years ago and hope you have a happy life. Scott, I hope you value her.

        Bullshido provided a form of support-group therapy where we can/could come to let out our anger, shame, thoughts, and pain in a safe nurturing environment. To all of you here, I thank you for that.

        This chapter of my life is finally over. I look forward to the future without the negative baggage I carried for years. Best wishes to all of you here and to those of you who may escape to start your journey back to freedom and happiness.

    11/07/2014
    bemused
        Great post, Shadow. I feel much the same way. Healing takes time, but it's never too late to start. I'm happily married, well employed, and thriving among my friends, most of whom are fellow musicians.

    11/08/2014 1:19pm,
    Shadow Dancer
        Thank you Bemused!

    2/11/2015
    clarehoare
        I started this thread in 2005. I started it because when I googled "Tae Yun Kim cult" nothing came up. There were some vague usenet postings from the early 90s about opinion, but no substance.

        I started a couple threads in other spots, in the years leading up to finding Bullshido and building this thread. None ever took off.

        At first I was told by friends not to post. They were likewise perusing the internet looking for information, and found mine.. but when they figured out who the poster was, they were scared. Even this thread took several years to take off. But for the better it provided a forum for everyone who has utilized it to post their experiences and feelings.

        It was a cathartic process for me to post, read, and research. I as many of you have gone through a lot. I don't even have the courage nor time to go back through the thousands of posts and read.

        I am proud of you all. Many started by posting under pseudonyms as I did. Hiding their identity or posing as someone else, in order to not receive backlash. I lived under the assumption that Kim was the all knowing, well beyond my 3 year stint in the COL cult. But now, with the help of this thread I think there has become an open and frank discussion between us that happens, without the awkwardness it once had. We all have the same information. As well other people can find it now. They can be informed before they decide to devote their life to Tae Yun Kim and her (allegedly) nefarious organizations.

        I wouldn't be who I am today without these experiences.. But that does not mean I owe her any debt of gratitude.

        I thank you all for spending your time, and facing an at one time perceived risk by posting.. I hope that someday I can groom my thoughts on this subject into a more deliberate, concise, on point format.. but for now the 1000's of non-sequitur posts will have to do.

        I still encourage everyone to share what they have. I will happily post public documents on my blog and share pertinent information.

        I appreciate you all for participating in this project. It took years, but alas was a success.

        I can't quantify how many people have been helped by this, but I'm sure it's a lot... in addition to all of those who have posted.

        Thank you.

    7/07/2015
    bemused
        I have started training at a new Tae Kwon Do school, and oh what a difference! Two observations will demonstrate it. One is that, despite being a former world champion, this teacher is content with the title "Mr." and doesn't demand to be called "Great Grandmaster Dr." In fact, when I mentioned that title to him, the expression on his face was priceless. The other is that I walked by the school when classes weren't in session and saw him by himself, vacuuming the floor. Great Grandmaster Dr. Tae Yun Kim would never do that unless 1) it was a photo opportunity, or 2) she was shaming the minion who was supposed to be doing it.

        Speaking of minions, here's a limerick I came up with today:

        Her Highness Great Doctor Grandmaster,
        Was really a walking disaster:
        It's just the opinion
        Of one former minion,
        But I couldn't run away faster.

    9/02/2015
    bemused
        Just an update - I'm still really enjoying training at my new school. After training for two months and learning the first three of their completely different forms (they do the palgue set), I will be testing for green belt soon. Menopause has been brutal on my health and weight, but now I'm successfully fighting back. I don't mind that it will take me a while to become a black belt again.

        I have started sparring again, and I'm especially impressed by the lack of backstage drama, which is saying a lot for a school in which most of the students are in their teens and twenties. Everyone is supportive, not because they have to be or because they're trying to lure me into some inner circle, but because of simple common decency. And it helps that they're not sleep-deprived like the inner circle at JSW.

        I learned a bit of interesting gossip. When I mentioned to the wife of the head of the school, also an advanced black belt, that my former master liked to "play God," she said, "I've had that teacher." The head of this school and his wife used to train under Byung Yu. Remember him? Byung Yu once left a message for Kimmie calling her "sweet cakes" or something like that. Turns out Byung Yu got in trouble for seducing a 13-year-old girl.

    8/09/2016
    bemused
        The International Cultic Studies Association has a series of videos on cults. Most are recordings of presentations at their conferences. I'm posting this one, "Marriage After the Cult," because this therapist covers everything Kimmie did to couples and families in the first five minutes. Some "original" she was.

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